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Do White People Have a Right to Reclaim their Ancestral and Tribal Roots?



Today, I'm blogging a response to an article on Medium because I stumbled on this article right after my daily Oracle post (which was very much about reclaiming ancestral roots), and felt deeply moved to rebutt the notion that white people have no right to reclaim their ancestry or tribal roots.

The author of the original article makes a lot of very strong statements, lumping all 'white people' together:

"White people already have a bunch of ancestry. We’ve recorded it for centuries. Other peoples are not so fortunate because white supremacists ensured that they would not have family history through slavery or genocide.

So all that you’re doing by 'reclaiming ancestry' is defining something that can be used to discriminate against others, NOT of your ancestry, and put us all into categories.

I say, drop the idea RIGHT NOW, that anyone is 'reclaiming' anything.
You are already white."

The article is quite obviously written by an American because the emphasis on colour is evident. We don't tend to colour sort people as much here in Northern Europe. It always baffled me that colour should be the main criteria for whether people have a right to their tribal roots or not.

The fact that some white people use ancestry to bolster racism doesn't give ANYBODY the right to take my ancestral roots away from me, any more than Christians should be told they must be racist for claiming the Christian faith because 'KKK'  or all people from the Middle East labeled terrorists because of ISIS.

It wasn't long ago, I unfriended one of the PC police who claimed I had no right to use the term 'spirit animal' because I am white (she went to great lengths to shame me for it). What Christianity stole from my ancestors (who did indeed believe in guidance from spirit animals) is not hers to deprive me of further.

My response on Medium:


"I speak for Frideborg, the first Swedish woman who converted to Christianity. We don’t know how much duress she was under when she made this conversion but much of Scandinavia was Christianised under the sword, as you may be aware, and as close in history as the 1700’s, Saami shamans were burned to death if they refused to give up their drums.

 As far as I know my Norse and Saami ancestors lived in peace until Romanitas took over and Scandinvia was Christianised, initially by the Catholic Church and later on by the Lutheran church — both of whom had no qualms about marrying the State for gold and power. 

 I speak for Frideborg because my parents named me after her. I didn’t have a choice in this, just as the original Frideborg probably didn’t have a say when she was forced to tow the line under a new religion. I speak for someone who was forced to abandon her lineage because my Norse and Saami ancestors knew they were descended from the gods. They knew that we are in constant communion with all ancestors, gods and human alike. 

Imagine the power that comes from knowing this, from knowing that we were not just dumped here and that our ultimate fate (eternity in Paradise or Hell) did not depend on making a declaration of faith but on our hamingja (i.e. the continuation of of life force energy through the ancestral bloodline). 

So much knowledge was lost. I don’t know what’s worse — the loss of knowledge or the disconnect from Nature… but forced Christianisation caused both. I speak for Frideborg when I say that before I reclaimed my ancestral roots, I felt homeless. You can, of course, claim that, by virtue of being white (mostly), I have no right to my tribal roots. Thankfully, I can, by virtue of being an autonomous human reclaim my power regardless of your opinion of me. 

Reclaiming our ancestry doesn’t make us racist (and is not a threat to other cultures-- couldn't edit this bit on Medium since comments don't allow for edits). It moves us back in contact with nature and helps us remember ancient knowledge that has been lost for too long." 

I wish this 'us vs them' mentality would stop - especially when it comes to white people hating themselves so much for being white that they divide themselves against themselves. We all need to come together in love. But first, some must heal their self-hatred and the need to debase themselves and their ancestral heritage in public-- It isn't helping anybody.

Frideborg

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    1. THANK YOU FRIDEBORG! Your words are moving & the Folk Spirit seized me when I read them! The air is so stale in American Heathenry; congested with political ideologues that in truth hate themselves & their ancestors, and I'm sure their 1690's mentality would have fit right in with the other religious extremists who smashed Lars Nilsson's swastika-covered ancestral drum and lit fire to the bundle under his stake-bound feet.

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    2. THANK YOU FRIDEBORG! Your words are moving & the Folk Spirit seized me when I read them! The air is so stale in American Heathenry; congested with political ideologues that in truth hate themselves & their ancestors, and I'm sure their 1690's mentality would have fit right in with the other religious extremists who smashed Lars Nilsson's swastika covered ancestral drum and lit fire to the bundle under his stake-bound feet.

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  2. My first thought as soon as she mentioned Norway (my mother is Norwegian and on my maternal line from the most northern parts of Norway, my grandfather's grandmother being from a village on the Norwegian/Finnish/Russian border, then moving to Tromsø, my grandfather's being from Tromsø, my grandmother from Andennes...) was the Saami. White, but still subjugated. Their language denied. Children adopted out. Do they not hav the right to reconnect/reclaim their ancestry by dint of the colour of their skin?

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    1. Saami and Norse alike have the right to their ancestry, unadulterated by Christian and commercialist brain washing. Both bloodlines meet in me, so I speak on behalf of ancestors on both sides.

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  3. I take pride and frequently give homage to my ancestors Cherokee, Choctaw, German, English, Welsh, Scottish, French, and likely African American. As or more importantly, I recognize that my soul has lived as a member of many tribes in however many lifetimes lived, as nigh every soul has. Whatever people you might think you hate, you likely have or shall live as one of "them" in some lifetime lived or to be lived. Loving one's people and heritage is good to maintain family. Loving all peoples is good to maintain soul.

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    1. Who said anything about hate or hating groups of people?

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    2. It is pure evil Creating Hate on indigenous White people to abuse and commit crimes on them, i have a Book on Slavery from 1975 and it shows its Christians and Jewish Elites, there are article on the internet saying white can not be Reclaiming ancestry, its sick really, European Empires had been created in the 1600 and 1700's as Whites had been taken Slaves from Arabs in North Africa, Africa was slaved out 600 years before a White Person set foot there, it was called White mans Grave, as Arabs and Blacks had been destroying it, and it was from a defence Europeans then saved their own as Coastal Towns had been desroyed all around England and France from Islamic Arabs taking whites as Sex Slaves, so i apparently i am a fascist and racist and white supremacist, gosh all this just happened, but i been told its inequality, and some how i am born Racist and i do not know it, its multi layer the black girl with more money and life style said to me, i have this white privilege and my country was an Empire, the colonisers we some how, owe you every thing from some sort of ancestors debt going back to the 1700's or some thing, that's what the BBC and School told me last week, this "woke" and very Progressive feminist mind set is saying, i should give the Keys to my house away as i owe for a fictitious crime, take my Computer, no i tell you what, it is all about giving every thing away now, and me feeling bad for being alive and being born, see the mountain bike in my hallway take it, i mean your from Eritrea or Somalia, you have nothing take every thing of mine here have my car and house, i only worked 60 hours aweek at some points, in fact have every thing of mine as i have a fictitious privilege because my ancestors worked hard to create a country ?

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    3. It is pure evil Creating Hate on indigenous White people to abuse and commit crimes on them, i have a Book on Slavery from 1975 and it shows its Christians and Jewish Elites, there are article on the internet saying white can not be Reclaiming ancestry, its sick really, European Empires had been created in the 1600 and 1700's as Whites had been taken Slaves from Arabs in North Africa, Africa was slaved out 600 years before a White Person set foot there, it was called White mans Grave, as Arabs and Blacks had been destroying it, and it was from a defence Europeans then saved their own as Coastal Towns had been desroyed all around England and France from Islamic Arabs taking whites as Sex Slaves, so i apparently i am a fascist and racist and white supremacist, gosh all this just happened, but i been told its inequality, and some how i am born Racist and i do not know it, its multi layer the black girl with more money and life style said to me, i have this white privilege and my country was an Empire, the colonisers we some how, owe you every thing from some sort of ancestors debt going back to the 1700's or some thing, that's what the BBC and School told me last week, this "woke" and very Progressive feminist mind set is saying, i should give the Keys to my house away as i owe for a fictitious crime, take my Computer, no i tell you what, it is all about giving every thing away now, and me feeling bad for being alive and being born, see the mountain bike in my hallway take it, i mean your from Eritrea or Somalia, you have nothing take every thing of mine here have my car and house, i only worked 60 hours aweek at some points, in fact have every thing of mine as i have a fictitious privilege because my ancestors worked hard to create a country ?

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  4. I really think you shouldn't be commenting on American issues. We have some very serious problems with racism. I do not think that Scandinavians truly understand what it means as I've seen others overstep and share their "white" opinions on the issues. We have centuries of slavery behind us and a stronghold of white people who would bring slavery back, who kill black people, and put children in cages, and ban perfectly decent Muslim people. A part of addressing being "white" is learning what that means in a world of diversity, as an American, you have to choose the side you are on. We have an anti-fascist movement going on in paganism and many people are against the word choices using "reclamation." I do have to thank you for the click bait...my stats are off the chart! But food for thought: because someone talks about being "white" doesn't mean that they are accusing YOU of racism. You just haven't reflected upon what being white means for you. You sound like a nice person...but you did overstep. Racist America 2020 is not 18th century Sweden..don't get it confused.

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    1. First of all, I shouldn't have to apologise for having opinions just because I'm white - Now that we have that out of the way...

      * I don't live in 18th century Sweden. I live in the UK. I have travelled the world, I follow the news and spent three long years in the Bible Belt (TN & SC) + I have many American friends who keep me up to date.

      * Being against the word 'reclamation' is not actually helping anybody and you can't police the whole world based on current US issues.

      * Living in a world of diversity would be less of a problem if people travelled and educated themselves.

      * Over here in Europe there is a growing weariness of the US PC police trying to tell us what the latest 'PC diversity vocabulary' ought to be... surely... if things are as bad as you say, you have more important matters to tend to?

      Peace

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    2. Gena I live in Norway, what you seam to forget is that Europeans tend to be far more informed of what is going on in the world than Americans, so we are rather informed about your issues. However it do not matter. No one overstep anything by claiming their heritage to matter who they are. The problem is that SJWs like you make people turn against work towards actual equality. No one do not have to be following the current SJW or rather as a friend of mine call it social justice berserkers with their constantly updated word tabus and ideas that if you are white you should hang your head in shame to want to fight for equality. I have every right to reclaim my Viking heritage, no that do not make me better or worse than anyone else. Everyone have the right to reclaim their roots. This one rule for white people for we are all horrible and one rule for everyone else have to stop, it do far more harm than good. And if that is overstepping let me do a little dance so you get more steps to complain about.

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    3. Exactly this, well said Anja!

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    4. Dear Ladies

      DISCLAIMER: I write in my own name, being considered a somewhat leftist pagan where I come from, so there will always be a person who will call me a heretic (sic! even among pagans) and tell you I lie. I don't lie, I will speak about what me and community I am a part of promotes. I am aware that there are pagans with all sorts of political views. I just don't enter their communities.

      I must agree with Frideborg here. Shortly told, I often receive feedback that since I come from a country in Europe, I do not get to reconnect with my acestry witout being racist.

      I come from Poland and I practice both with Polish Asatru, Polish Native Faith and some animists. I must put emphasis on the country here, because it stands behind many differences. For example, extreme right views among Asatru are not common and are considered unwanted and reason for exclusion in the circles I am part of especially because Poland (WWII is reason enough to disavow racist Asatru here).

      What is our main problem is that Poland is heavily under Catholic Church influence, especially after WWII, and in the last decade or so right-wing extremists using Catholicism as an excuse to be xenophobia grew in power. Reconnecting with your ancestry here means coming back to self-sufficiency, personal responsibility and ability to make your own choices. My community pushes for egalitarianism (both for genders, religions and ethnicities) and promotes critical thinking. The reason someone is welcome is because someone shows effort in becoming a part of community, not because they check some arbitrary trait list.

      If we identify as for example Mazowszanin or Wielkopolanka (man from Mazowsze, woman from Greater Poland) the implication is: I am me, you are you. My responsibility is to my people first and yours to yours. The only value ascribed here is to the bond between people, not people themselves. It is obvious a mother will first take care of her children, and for me it is obvious I will first serve my land/community before I give aid elsewhere. It does not mean I will let people somewhere else rot when they need a helping hand. It means I fail as a pagan if I ignore problems I see in my immediate environment/circle.

      I strongly believe that reconnecting with one's root grounds a person and helps to internalise self-worth. And as a result this person can shed their insecurities and stop putting other people down to feel better. When you have nothing to prove to yourself you can actually talk with other people instead of using them to talk to yourself.

      Other aspect of reconnecting with our ancestry in Europe is reconnecting to nature and reforging the bond our ancestors had with nature. Which we all desperately need.

      And the last one is a matter of trying to reinstate healthier situation regarding women (and also expectation toward men) in society. 1/2

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    5. So to sum it up: reasons for reconnecting to one's ancestry are numerous, and heavily dependent on particular case. If one conflates that with what white-supremacist do, one lets them win, because one lets them steal a cultural phenomenon that can serve as a starting point to rejuvenate many societies.

      Of course one must ask themself if they try to reconnect to their heritage to rejuvenate their souls or if it is a way to express need for escapism from modern life or because of far-right populism propaganda. I do admit it happens.

      On the other hand, if someone tells people that "whites" should not reconnect with their ancestry, those who want to not be racist can feel pressured to not express their reasons and ways. And we won't have a civil discussion about this. And if it happens someone new wants to find their roots, they will stumble upon far-right version of this only (let's don't kid ourselves, the only people who would be influenced by the original article are not white-supremacist, they will just ignore the author's opinion because they don't listen to outsiders).

      So I would ask the readers to consider that 1) using English does not equal being American, English is a lingua franca for most of the world 2) each community/country has it's own circumstances and American problems usually do not apply there (at least in not in the same way) 3) There is a need for a representation of "reconnecting" that ends up with people being less hurt by society and more willing and prepared to act in varied social situations.

      I do try here to express myself with emotional balance and arguments, but there is one angry thing I feel compelled to say: it is imperialistic of anyone to say publicly that one country's problems are more important that others. I do not say being imperialistic is the intention here, but it reads so to anyone who experienced hegemonic pressure in their lives (be it non-christian, non-white, non-male, non-hetero and others).

      Kindly thank you for allowing me to express my views here.
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    6. Very well put. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts here, Alfrún!

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    7. As an American citizen that has studied my ancestry to the extent that I could, I disagree with Gena about having to choose a side...since we're all stuck on this planet together and what's done is done. Further separation from one another is like ripping stitches out before the wound even has a chance to heal. Every country has had horrors befall them. Just because those horrors weren't color coded like the black and white world we seem to live in in the USAsshole, doesn't mean it didn't happen. My people were put to the sword and forced into conversion as well. This country is young to us. None of us, white, black, or Asian, etc were the native residents of this land. I have every right as a human being with a strong connection to my roots, to reclaim what, and who I am. I am only IN America. I have been all my life, as many of my ancestors were founders. Some arrived on the Mayflower. Some (the Van Meterens) arrived on The Fox and settled where Kingston, New York is now. Some ancestors had slaves. Some didn't. Back then it was normal. It's not now, they're slaves no more, and I...didn't...personally...do it. Why should I feel shame?
      I take much pride in my roots, though, and I am NOT "American". I am Northern European. I am of old gods without political agendas. I am a citizen of the universe. It's not about being white. It's about our true culture(s) and having the right to be proud of it without being sneered at for a skin color I didn't even choose. It's not like the gods asked me in advance, "which skin color would you prefer?" Birth is not a hair salon, and blood is always red. It certainly doesn't mean I hate another culture for being different than my own. I hate those that use it as an excuse to take advantage of, or hurt others. If humans weren't so possessive, this could be such a beautiful place. Alas, it's filled with those that have forgotten a much bigger picture : We are all connected, scientifically and spiritually, to one another and nature itself.
      To the citizens of the countries that rightfully felt insulted by Gena's comment...
      I don't blame you a bit and hope you don't associate us all with those like that. Thank you for what you've written here Frideborg!

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    8. "Further separation from one another is like ripping stitches out before the wound even has a chance to heal." So true! And yes, we are all connected. It's wonderful to hear such a sound voice from across the pond - Thank you!

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  5. Berserker sometimes comes out.

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  6. Thank you this is very well written. Everyone have the right to reclaim roots that have been taken from them. It is time the PC hysteria where white people are expected to hang their heads in shame for being white. I refuse to take part in racism but I also refuse to be ashamed of being born in Northern Europe and having pale skin, that people who look like me have mistreated others have nothing to do with me. We need to move forwards towards equality together not create reversed racism where you have one set of rules for white people and one for everyone else. Christianity took the religion and heritage of the old Norse, and we have every right to reclaim that.

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  7. Absolutely brilliantly said. Brava. "What Christianity stole from my ancestors ...is not hers to deprive me of further" brought me out of my seat cheering. I've reblogged this on my own blog. Thank you for taking up the mantle of ancestor veneration and thank you for speaking out against the witless wonders who would further cut themselves off from ancestral wisdom.

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  8. I live in Canada of Irish/Scotch ancestry so probably a bit of Norse also. Christianity was forced on all my known ancestors. Those that do not want me to know about what existed before that are no better than the missionaries that used force back then.
    Now why would people of other races care? Does my search for my roots take anything away from their search? They have a problem, this is not a competition.

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    1. "Does my search for my roots take anything away from their search?" No it doesn't, so it behoves us to ask 'Who is gaining from this division?'

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  9. It's a "them vs us" mentality. They have it and you don't. Either you understand this or you go extinct. "Racism" is like any other form of "heresy". It's a charge that's only leveled against the White race and used to bludgeon Whites into submission and eventual extinction. As non-Whites form explicit political, religious, economic, social, and cultural groups acting in their explicit collective racial self-interest in White countries, Whites grovel and beg not to be called "racist."

    What's the point of honoring ancestors when you're terrified to admit they're White?

    It's better to be racist than extinct. Those ancestors couldn't pass on their traditions because they were the "racists" of their day. They chose their own people over foreigners, their own ways, and they were branded "heretics." Christianity was no different than the anti-White social justice warriors of today, except Christians at least had a concept of salvation. Anti-Racism is a church without salvation. All Whites go to hell. Extinction is the only way out, unless you realize it's all bullshit, none of it is moral, and the White race is much better off without Diversity, inclusion, and tolerance.

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    1. I think the war against white people may be a distraction and we need to look a bit deeper into who is holding the strings... Who benefits from all this strife and polarisation?

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    1. Truly, it's been my pleasure - In standing up, I've freed myself to think for myself.

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  11. There seems to be a popular myth nowadays that Europeans sprang out of the ground with Bibles under our arms, dressed as the quaker oats man, and only existed to destroy everyone else's indigenous traditions and therefore have no right to our pre-Christian traditions or those of anyone else. It always seems to boil down to: You people were the colonizers, you therefore deserve nothing. Thanks for the great rebuttal. Hail the ancestors.

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  12. I am really losing my patience with those obnoxious, crude, crass and impudent SJW types who think they have the authority to strip us of our indigenous cultures. Denying a group of people their culture, traditions and customs thereof is an aspect of imperialism; yet they fail to see the hypocrisy of their own actions. It took me nearly ten years to discover and subsequently embrace my Nordic culture - of which I am very proud - but I will not standby and let them take that from me. Furthermore, they whine about neo-Nazis corrupting European cultures but fail to see who the real Nazis are because they are utterly oblivious to their authoritarian behaviour.

    Anyway, I thank you for standing up to them, but I personally think you were too diplomatic; if it were me, I would have unleashed a deadly wave of fury upon her. Oh, and I agree with you about the part of reconnecting with nature. It's very important in the age of consumerism.

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    1. Agreed... As for standing up to them: I find that I am better able to state my case when I am calm. I think it is better for everyone if I stay calm. It is certainly better for my health. :)

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    2. A fair argument. Have a blessed day/evening. :) You are a breath of fresh air.

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    3. Thank you and the same to you!

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  13. I made it through the original post. Let me get this strait. That long-winded, vapid screed was doing nothing more than arguing semantics? I think the OP has opened their mind so much that their brain fell out.

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    1. Yes, it's about semantics but on a deeper level it is about who owns the word and the rights that go with it.

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    2. I am currently trying to finish my Master dissertation in semantic fields and had to go through 1) what a meaning of a word is and how we determine it 2) language contact theory. I recommend the second one to those, who try to argue "rights" over using a world or a language. There is also considerable number of works regarding mother tongues as a human right.

      My point is, policing language use is normative in the linguistic sense of the word (meant to create norms), and trying to create a norm we try to force onto others is against freedom.

      On the other hand, we are allowed and even morally required to raise awareness of troubling trends in communication (like this article is aiming to). A person can inform themself on the practical meaning a word or communication strategy and make their own decision. Angry telling off was never a reason I changed my language or point of view. Appealing to my intelligence and compassion was.

      And as a linguist I know words are not my personal possession and I have to share them with others. I know, that can piss a person off, but that is the nature of language. I didn't like it, so I started creating my own language and guess what: funny as it is, I know it works against me expressing myself toward other people. When things matter, you have to use language as a tool, not as a trophy.

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    3. 'trying to create a norm we try to force onto others is against freedom' - yes, bully boy tactics

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  14. Claim your roots.
    It is your heritage whether you want it or not.
    Assuming you are not adopted your last name speaks volumes of your family history.
    There are some ethnities hoping people become aware of their lineage and proclaim it especially among the celtic people. Note the festivals that have their olympic like games.

    The norse people should embrace their viking heritage. It never disappeared. Hint? Look at the days of the week and study the names. Also the jury system. The vikings had a love for poetry and requested a poet dedicate a saga to immortalise them. Plus the found north America long before Columbus did.

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    1. Frideborg is my second given name but I choose to go by it rather than my Christian first name. My maiden family name is old Norse too though so yeah, not adopted.

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  15. Rethinking the Peopling of the Americas by anthropologist Robert Sepehr. WHITE PEOPLE were the first settlers on the East coast of what is now the United States. This is OUR LAND. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUY-9qR_RGs

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    1. By the very same logic, the land belongs to the Native American Indians. Did you miss some history classes in school?

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